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‘Outlander’ Mid-Season Premiere: Thoughts on the controversial “spanking scene”

  • Eris

    Oh stop with the whining about that scene. This show is really true to the book, of course it has to be in it. It was funny in the book as well. And the times were different then, so i can’t understand why this should be a problem. History is something that does not change whether we like it or not.

    • True, but only because it was a “normal” occurrence back then doesn’t mean it was right.

      Thanks for reading!

      • Melanie

        When did writing novels or making movies become about doing everything that is RIGHT?? In this mini-series alone there is rape, killing, child abuse and everything in between but everyone wants to hone in on the adult spanking scene…why? Because it’s a “hot topic” in our time? But this ISN’T in our time… so WHY in God’s name is this an issue? Even if it were… It’s a story. It doesn’t have to be politically correct. It has to have a plot and some eyebrow raisers, it has to have intrigue and stir emotions. So let it stir you, and leave THE STORY and its characters be who they are. You want to write a PC love story in modern times, I say go right ahead. You don’t like to see that they spanked wives in 1745, move on to another story.

      • Melanie

        When did writing novels or making movies become about doing everything that is RIGHT?? In this mini-series alone there is rape, killing, child abuse and everything in between but everyone wants to hone in on the adult spanking scene…why? Because it’s a “hot topic” in our time? But this ISN’T in our time… so WHY in God’s name is this an issue? Even if it were… It’s a story. It doesn’t have to be politically correct. It has to have a plot and some eyebrow raisers, it has to have intrigue and stir emotions. So let it stir you, and leave THE STORY and its characters be who they are. You want to write a PC love story in modern times, I say go right ahead. You don’t like to see that they spanked wives in 1745, move on to another story.

  • Dsrrell

    He had already made it clear that if a man had put the clan in danger by not following orders, he would lose an ear or two to make a statement. Plus.if Jamie hadn’t punished her sufficiently, the head(s) of the clan would certainly do so–publicly, most likely. I would think he would tell her what he was going to do and to wail as loudly as possible because everyone was listening. He has always been her guide to understanding their customs. Not working with her was out of character.

    • That’s a very good point! I definitely could have seen them working together to fool the other men into thinking she was punished.

      Thanks for reading!

  • Weave77

    I don’t believe that it’s possible for me to disagree more with an article.

    First of all, Claire is completely ungrateful and unreasonable in this episode. Jaime, a man who agreed to forsake all other women for life (including his sweetheart back at the castle) simply to protect Claire, gives her a simple and reasonable order… stay put, no matter what. Yes, we the audience understand why she didn’t stay, but no one else does. At any rate, Jaime is forced to risk the life of both him and his friends in order to storm a well-defended British fort and, as he put it, rescue Claire with only an empty pistol and his bare hands. Against all odds, however, he is able to succeed with his suicide mission and prevent Claire from being raped (and probably killed).

    Yet, instead of being grateful for his selfless and heroic efforts, Claire is more preoccupied with shouting down any of Jaime’s attempts to scold her reckless behavior. I could hardly believe that she slapped and cursed Jaime for daring to point out that, because of her selfish disobedience, Clan MacKenzie could face serious repercussions from the British army and that Black Jack Randal has now made it his personal life’s goal to see Jaime dead.

    It gets even worse when Jaime informs Claire that she is going to be spanked. Despite the fact that her actions clearly deserve punishment (he points out that she would be flogged or lose an ear if she were a man), and it is expected of Jaime by the clan to punish his wife, Claire won’t have it. Instead of facing the music (as Jaime has done 3 times already this series, under much more unfair circumstances), she attempts to both escape and hurt Jaime… and ends up kicking him in the face.

    And then, after she is spanked, Claire acts like a sullen child, avoiding Jaime until he apologizes to her(?!) and details to her what exactly she put him through in order to get her back. Only after he swears never to spank her again (something that no man from that culture and time period would ever do, mind you) does she drop her cold attitude towards her husband.

    But what really killed me was how, during their enthusiastic bit of makeup sex, she fucking puts a knife to Jaime’s throat! With the blade practically cutting into his neck, she swears to murder Jaime in cold blood if he ever spanks her again. While you could maybe make the case that Jaime spanking Claire was domestic abuse, her threatening his life with a deadly weapon most certainly is! And, bear in mind, that this is a man who had just saved her from death and rape, at great risk to his own life, despite having no real obligation to do so. And that none of that would have happened if she had just obeyed his order in the first place.

    Quite frankly, I am disgusted with Claire’s character after the last episode. And seeing her loathsome actions being praised in articles such as this makes me more than a little nauseous.

    • Lars Christian Steenberg

      OK, Claire got what she deserved, and probably Jamie will spank her again if she puts her own or other people’s life in danger. I loved the fight between them and Claire’s final comeupppance, but of course she tried to avoid getting spanked. But I am sure she will respect Jamie more in the future because he showed her he was a man and not a wimp. Most women like their men to be realmen – even at the cost of a sore tail.

  • Melanie

    When did writing novels or making movies become about doing everything that is RIGHT?? In this mini-series alone there is rape, killing, child abuse and everything in between but everyone wants to hone in on the adult spanking scene…why? Because it’s a “hot topic” in our time? But this ISN’T in our time… so WHY in God’s name is this an issue? Even if it were… It’s a story. It doesn’t have to be politically correct. It has to have a plot and some eyebrow raisers, it has to have intrigue and stir emotions. So let it stir you, and leave THE STORY and its characters be who they are. You want to write a PC love story in modern times, I say go right ahead. You don’t like to see that they spanked wives in 1745, move on to another story.

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