Adventure Time Review 6×42 and 6×43: “Hot Diggety Doom” and “The Comet”

  • Shade

    Best Review I’ve heard so far! ;D

  • chicken fry

    season 7… the fish

  • johsue

    i just cant agree on 9/10… to me its like 11/10 as the best episode and end of season on the show.. maybe its because that my personal beliefs and philosophies were answered as i was suspecting from AT cast and pendleton ward, the whole being infinite and stuffs.. dunno awesome to me.. greate review btw

    • maththemath

      Thanks! I tend to reserve 10/10 only for the absolute best, it’s not like I really saw anything wrong with this episode. I’d probably only give a 10/10 to “I Remember You” and “Bad Timing.”

      • Timothy Foley

        I love Bad Timing, but I find it very interesting that you would give that one and that one alone equal status to the unquestionable “I Remember You”. Nothing wrong with that whatsoever, I just don’t see many people rating it quite that highly.
        10/10s for me…”Simon and Marcy”, “Lemonhope”, “Wake Up/Escape From the Citadel”, and probably this finale.

        Thing is, though, I find those to be so great because the philosophical and emotional questions they explore are very compelling; but not every episode tries to achieve that. What flaws can I find with “James Baxter the Horse”? How can I say that it achieved anything less than what it set out to achieve, including the reaction is gets out of me?

        Just rambling now. Carry on.

        • maththemath

          You’re in luck: Monday should see the publication of my incredible top 50 episodes feature, which I’m putting a lot of work into. Every episode you’ve mentioned is in at least my top 21 (except “Wake Up,” I treat episodes as separate episodes if they have a different storyboard team, so only “Holly Jolly Secrets” and “Lemonhope” are the 2-in-1). All but one make the top six.

          Also, “James Baxter the Horse” freaking rules. Not sure if it’ll make the 50 (I’ve only solidified the top 30 so far, and it’s not there).

          And something can only be an A+ if it aims high enough to be an A+. You can be flawless but still not aim for something that truly hits the right spot. And to me, “Bad Timing” is a small stakes story that brings us a level of sympathy for a character that up until that point deserved about none, along with the outright expulsion of an innocent character from that dimension. It’s sad in a way that Adventure Time never matches unless you have Finn meeting his father while The Lich is there or some stuff. “Bad Timing” and “I Remember You” are wonderful because they’re so simple.

          One is two days in the life of an emotionally unstable teen who tastes true happiness for the first time in a while, and the other is about a recluse finally giving her old friend another chance, through playing music.

          Bringing out Hunson Abadeer, Orgalorg, or The Lich is great, but to me, Adventure Time is at its best when it’s hitting us with the smaller stuff. The big stuff is great, don’t get me wrong. But it’s all the more impressive when those small stakes episodes pack every bit as much punch as the colliding conflicts of, say, “Escape from the Citadel.”

          • Timothy Foley

            What a coincidence (Not really, since a big season just ended). Me and Andrew Tran (An excellent writer who does some fantastic reviews for this show) are doing a top twenty episodes feature on Overmental pretty soon. We should each post links in this thread, so we can compare and contrast.
            As far as what merits an A+, I more or less agree. I always feel slightly awkward when I watch that scene in Dead Poets Society where the cool Robin Williams professor tells the students to rip out the introduction to their poetry books that tells them they can determine a poem’s greatness by graphing its flawlessness against its ambition, because I kind of agree with that. Okay, it’s ludicrous to think you can measure greatness like a science, but there is some truth to the idea that great art consists of a fantastic execution of worthy subject matter.
            For me, though, there are two kinds of Adventure Time episodes worthy of full marks: episodes that showcase the beautiful, childlike philosophy at the core of the show, and episodes that demonstrate that that philosophy is still relevant and applicable even when you are surrounded by the terrifying elements of this world. “I Remember You”, “Bad Timing”, “Lemonhope”, “Frost and Fire”, these are all great because of the weighty subjects they deal with while still holding onto that little sliver of optimism, but to me, “James Baxter”, “Thank You”, “Sons of Mars”, and “Shh!” are on that same level just for showcasing that optomism on its own.
            I do agree about small-scale episodes often being just as–or more–powerful than big epic ones. That’s part of why “I Remember You” is so staggeringly great: it’s not just the tragedy of the story, it’s the way the episode tell it to us: have these two characters, in their present, wounded state, share the same few rooms for almost the entire length of the episode and just TALK. It depicts the tragedy not by info-dumping it on us, but by showing its effect on these people, and then banging the story out as they lash out at each other. It’s breath-takingly great character writing.
            It’s also one reason I thought “Friends Forever” was really underrated by most of the AV Club crowd. It didn’t give us any new lore or backstory, but it reminded us just how truly alone Simon is: his mind is so warped that he is literally incapable of either progress or meaningful connection. The book he keeps zoning out while reading is actually his own journal from the days of the aftermath, but he rejects his former self to the point of the very concept being alien to him (“What-mon?”). This is exactly what happens towards the end of the episode: the furniture break his little fantasy bubble and point out that he’s a crazed loner who talks to penguins all day, but he’s so desperate not to see himself that way that he is unable to process their accusations at all. His addled brain shifts from pathetic goofiness into a straight-up psychotic rampage, and he immediately kills the people who were trying (Albiet insensitively) to help him, precisely because they were trying to help him.

          • maththemath

            I’m holding off until next week for three reasons: A. I want to post it on a Monday B. Steven bomb C. this site is doing a Bob’s Burgers countdown and I don’t want to be eclipsed by that.

          • maththemath

            And speaking of the Steven bomb and 10/10 episodes…

          • Timothy Foley

            Yeah, geez. I review Steven Universe, and by the looks of it, it’s going to be a fun week.

          • maththemath

            And now it’s up! Tumblr reblogs and Reddit upvotes greatly appreciated.

      • KCIV

        10/10 should be given after the passing of time, and not awarded hastily in the moment. I think after AV has concluded a rescoring of the episodes is due.

        its like Star Trek Next Generation, The “10/10” episodes sometimes didn’t happen till after you finished the show and seen it a few times. Then you could really know the true best episodes.

        • maththemath

          I generally agree with this, which is why I award it so sparingly. A bit of the reason I’m blessed as a critic is because I’ve gotten very good at determining when I’ve figured out how much I like something. I gave myself twenty listens to To Pimp a Butterfly before I dished out that award and it’ll likely remain feeling that good for the rest of my life.

          Check out my huge feature on this site, The Top 50 Adventure Time Episodes, for 48 episodes I consider a 9/10 and two I would give a 10/10.

          But you’re very right that knee-jerk perfect scores are irritating. Which is why when I decide to actually go out there, it’s only when I’m absolutely certain I’ve just witnessed something incredible, such as Gravity Falls’ “Not What He Seems,” which, wow.

  • Matiigo

    Great episode!
    Great review!

    • maththemath

      Thanks so much! I’m going to be highlighting the 50 top episodes sometime in the coming week, so look out for that.

  • Mieli

    Great review. Just to note you say “Jack” when you mean “Jake” once. No big.

    Also, when did Glob tally deeds? Or was that just an expression replacing God with Glob?

    Anyway, awesome reviews, will probably check out more of your stuff since you’re a good critic.

    • maththemath

      Thanks so much (and also, fixed)! In the third season episode “The New Frontier,” Jake has a croak dream and then tells Finn “when I die my individual earth conscious is gonna go all everywhere while glob tallies my deeds.”

      This is also one of Jake’s bits that’s given an encore in “Is That You?”

  • Denney_thejets

    I love how AT always presents philosophical lenses to see things through. You have the notion that life is one meaningless abyss full of random events VS the idea that there’s a greater cosmic power guiding characters/events with purpose… and of course a spectrum of everything in-between.

    Was it cosmically meant for Finn to destroy Orgalorg (hence him running into his father in space – what are the odds!?) or was it sheer luck and optimism that put him in a position to do so? In either case, he wouldn’t have had the agency to stop Orgalorg if he didn’t believe in himself. And I think that in itself is a great universal truth.

    Also, great review(s)! Thank glob you self-promoted yourself in an AV Club Review and I read it