Is Rey from ‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens’ a “Mary Sue”?

  • Manuel Cruz

    Stop trying to negate the evident. Starwars VII is bad fan-fiction and a bad copy of episodes IV, V, and VI. Rey is 100% Mary Sue, she has every aspect of one, including being “secret daughter” of a main character. She has no flaws, she does not struggle at anything she does, she is good at everything, the whole universe seems to move around her. On the very same day that her force awakens, she is already able to beat the current force champion that did ludicrous force stunts at the beginning of the movie. Luke was only good at one single thing, had to be rescued five times, lost all his lightsaber fights, lost a hand, and got constantly in troubles. With Rey I was able to shout “Bingo” barely after the first half of the movie. Even her name points out that she is a Mary Sue, as the name means “King”. If you replace her with “Poochie” from The Simpsons, it becomes evident.

    The problem is that dangerously infantilized people cannot accept objective criticism, and more so the feminists that are so brainwashed and crazy that they turn everything into a sexism issue, because it is the only thing their lunatic minds can understand.

  • valar84

    Entirely false. Rey earned NOTHING. There is no explanation in her background why she would be able to pilot the Millenium Falcon at first try better than Han Solo. No explanation why she would know how it works better than Han too, taking things apart is not puttng them together.

    There is also no reason at all for why people love her at first sight. Finn, Han Solo, Chewbacca, Leia, even Kylo Ren is attracted in a way to her despite knowing no more about her than the fact that “some girl” was seen fleeing with the droid and the traitor. Yet all of them treat her as if she was uniquely interesting and desirable. Even Luke had to earn Han and Chewie’s respect on the Death Star.

    There is nothing in the movie that makes her skills consistent with the universe. It’s all about plot convenience. Everything that Luke and Anakin had to work hard for years to achieve, she manages to do on the spot without any training or mentor. How anyone can deny that is beyond me…

    But the answer for that reason is in this text. When the author preemptively accuses everyone who calls her a Mary Sue of simply being prejudiced against women and sexist, we can see it for what it is. The author denies her being a Mary Sue because he wants “strong female characters” and he doesn’t care whether these characters make sense in the context of a story. So because Rey qualifies, he will defend her honor to the death, the facts be damned!

    And yes, many Action heroes would qualify as Mary Sues, and there is nothing wrong with that in the dumb Action genre, which all recognize as brainless shoot’em-ups with very bad scripts and stories, which exist only to show action scene after action scene. But I’d like to think Star Wars is more than that, it’s a sci-fi epic that is supposed to work based on its story, not just its special effects of fight choreography. Even then, the recent trend in movies with established “Gary Stus” is to humanize them. See James Bond in Casino Royal for instance, or Batman in the Nolan trilogy. These movies were praised for doing that, for making their characters more fallible, more human. But as to female characters, the trend is the opposite, more and more they are writing female characters as perfect Mary Sues, and we’re supposed that what we’re moving away from with male heroes, which was universally recognized as bad writing, is supposedly GREAT writing when done with female characters?

    There is a double standard here, but it’s not where you think it is. I’ll even make the claim that if Rey was a guy, the author of this piece and all the people who defend her would be destroying her distaff counterpart as a mere self-insertion “wish fulfillment” character.

    BTW, a Mary Sue has another characteristic: she is a character inserted into another story, a trope from fanfiction. So is Rey, a character inserted into the story made by George Lucas. In fact, I’ll go one step further, not only is Rey a Mary Sue, she is INTENDED to be a Mary Sue to attract new fans to the franchise who would identify with her, to provide all of them with a canonical self-insertion character.

  • Lucas_D

    Well, if Batman was kicking that much ass as an 11-year-old Bruce Wayne and James Bond was pulling off all his incredible derring-do as a preteen still in boarding school, your comparisons would hold up fine.

    The problem I’m seeing here is that by front-loading so much “Grrrl Power RAWR!!” sensibility into Rey, they’ve given her less room to grow as a believable character. Luke’s biggest flaws were that he was reckless, impatient, and didn’t listen to the voice of experience; he rushed off without complete training against the advice of two Jedi masters and very nearly died in his first encounter with Darth Vader. Rey, meanwhile, handily defeats this movie’s Vader-analogue with no special training, and her only flaws were… Uh, what were they, exactly?

    I saw someone else try to defend Rey by pointing out that Superman is also by definition a “Mary Sue” character. This is true, but it’s also true that Superman is very, very difficult to write for. And that’s all I’m saying here; from what they’ve already established of Rey, it’s going to be tough -not impossible, but tough- to make her realistic and relatable.